Thursday, March 26, 2009

Something I've come up with about life. Give me your opinion =)?

Well I am only 14, and what I am about to say comes completely from me. I have been in deep thought about this for the past week and I have come up with this:





Well, atoms make up everything. Atoms, though, are 99.99% empty space. So basically, everything is nothing, at least thats what it seems. But, we can only see about 10% of things based on light spectrum. So, basically our eyes and other sense are obsurdities. Everything we have ever seen or smelled, etc, is totally false and inaccurate. Basically, we all live our lives based on these false observations and absolute obsurdities. Since we cannot see more then 10% of everything, how can we come up with such things as measurement? The fact that we have measurements of length and time, etc, is almost insane, at least that is what I believe.





Thats basically it, for now =)
Something I%26#039;ve come up with about life. Give me your opinion =)?
Well you have lots to learn about life when you get up to my age you then not only have seen what life is all about but have experienced what life is all about
Something I%26#039;ve come up with about life. Give me your opinion =)?
Don%26#039;t try passing through a brick wall at a full run! The molecules that are made from atoms have bonds between them that creates solids, liquids and gases.
Reply:Very intriguing :D


I have also pondered over something similar to that. I mean - how can people measure the Sun when being so close to it can frazzle you?


I%26#039;d ask a Science teacher if I were you. Preferably one that is skilled in the area of Physics.
Reply:You%26#039;ll get some patronising responses here because you started saying %26#039;I%26#039;m only 14%26#039;, but your line of thought is entirely coherent.


An example of this thought is the idea that if the universe halved/doubled in size overnight, we couldn%26#039;t notice the difference - a 30cm ruler might now be 60cm from yesterday%26#039;s point of view, so to speak.


If you want to follow up what you%26#039;re thinking about, you could read this page:


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subjective_...


and the wikipedia page called Idealism looks okay too.





I would add that the notion of life founded on absolute absurdities is to be welcomed.
Reply:Actually, atoms are not made of 99.9% space. Scientists have discovered that atoms are filled with different parts, not just protons, neutrons and electrons.





If we smell something, we smell it. It exists because it exists to us. If we say a day is 24 hours long, it is 24 hours because we created time. We fit the passing of the earth around the globe into our measurements. It isn%26#039;t false or inaccurate. If we follow it, it is accurate.





You are over complicating a very simple issue. Just enjoy life, stop calling the sight and smell of a rose fake, just because the atoms that makes it only fill out %26#039;%26#039;1% of space%26#039;%26#039;. It wouldn%26#039;t exist if it was 100% emtpy space, but it isn%26#039;t.
Reply:completely from you huh? Your age shows. However I do appreciate your point of view. I agree that we cannot trust our own senses...
Reply:you guy smart, ************ !


check this out: there%26#039;s an ancient


indian doctrine called sunyavada - comes


from the word sunya = void, emptyness -


look for it;


if you came with your idea withtout


knowing %26#039;bout it, that%26#039;s somethin%26#039; !





and yeah, measurement it%26#039;s an illusion;


everything it%26#039;s affected by entropy, even


the standard you use to measure things;


recently i%26#039;ve heard that the


etalon for meter, which they have


somewhere in Paris, France, it%26#039;s getting


shorter with time, due to atomic


dissintegration;


btw, how do we know the lenght


of a day was the same 1000 y ago ?


i%26#039;m talking measurement;


if the planet was spinning faster then


that today, that


means the days were shorter and


the measure unit called %26#039;hour%26#039; was also


shorter
Reply:Keep thinking those kinds of thoughts. Let me help you along.





The difference between Newton%26#039;s particles and sensed qualities is found in our experience of them. The immediate experience of colors, odors, and sounds are just that, immediate experience of color, odor, and sound, however the wavelength of blue light is theoretically designated and indirectly verified. Your skepticism arises from the overwhelming difference between these two types of experience: the theoretically postulated, hypothetically designated component of experience and the immediately sensed determinate portion of experience, ---which is part of our very being. The immediately sensed component is relative to each individual while the theoretic component is public, exists within our understanding, and therefore is accessible to everybody, everywhere.





We experience emotional life, embodied life, and psychological life--in their aesthetic immediacy, within which determinate differentiations come and go. In this way, change, and understanding change, is pervasive. Theories follow from questions, and correct theories follow from confirmation of experimental results. In other words, the scientific method is one way to expand our horizons, but that method works best when dealing with physical phenomena. The scientific method is less effective when it comes to expanding our psychological and emotional horizons and these horizons are immediately sensed.





Here’s how F. S. C. Northrop describes the relationship of a fully known thing: “Both components are equally real and primary, and hence good, the one being the complement of the other… (He states) “To be any complete thing is to be not merely an immediately experienced, aesthetically and emotionally felt thing, but also to be what hypothetically conceived and experimentally verified theory designates.” (The Meeting Of East And West, p. 450)





I will give Arthur Eddington the last words here. He was possibly the first person to fully comprehend Einstein’s relativity theory. He also headed up the famous expedition that photographed the solar eclipse which offered proof of relativity theory.





Eddington believed that if you want to fill a vessel you must first make it hollow (the emptiness that vexes). He also said, “our present conception of the physical world is hollow enough to hold almost anything,” hollow enough to hold “that which asks the question,” hollow enough to hold “the scheme of symbols connected by mathematical equations that describes the basis of all phenomena.” He also said, however, “If ever the physicist solves the problem of the living body, he should no longer be tempted to point to his result and say ‘That’s you.’ He should say rather ‘That is the aggregation of symbols which stands for you in my description and explanation of those of your properties which I can observe and measure. If you claim a deeper insight into your own nature by which you can interpret these symbols—a more intimate knowledge of the reality which I can only deal with by symbolism—you can rest assured that I have no rival interpretation to propose. The skeleton is the contribution of physics to the solution of the Problem of Experience; from the clothing of the skeleton it (physics) stands aloof.” (Wilber, 2001, p. 194)





Take care and keep on thinking.
Reply:Great thinking.





Well for measurement man uses that 10 percent pretty well to get an accurate measurements for things around him that will impact other people who rely on those readings. These then are useful for man and serve a necessary purpose.

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